“American culture has basically accepted the concept of human rights. [...]

“[...]this concept has included implicit exclusions. [...]

“The exclusion has always been justified by putative differences in kind. The question in such border disputes is always when is a difference a distinction.”

- Joel

“Supporters of [...] aversive therapy say it effectively changes behavior. Of course it does. Extended torture with no end in sight tends to do that. One of the axioms of torture is that anyone can be broken, given time and cruel enough methods.”

- Kay Olson